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QUÉ ES BLOCKCHAIN: LA EXPLICACIÓN DEFINITIVA PARA LA TEGNOLOGÍA MÁS DE MODA








¿Qué es el blockchain? Entre otras cosas, es una de las palabras de moda en los últimos tiempos. La cadena de bloques es también un concepto que plantea una enorme revolución no solo en nuestra economía, sino en todo tipo de ámbitos.
Entender lo que es esa cadena de bloques no es tan difícil, y dado que cada vez se utiliza más este concepto hemos querido hacer una especie de curso rápido de introducción al blockchain, para explicar qué es, cómo funciona y cuál es esa revolución que plantea la cadena de bloques.

Adiós, señor (banquero) intermediario

Pongámonos en situación. Lo normal es que si una persona llamada por ejemplo Mariano quisiera enviarle 1.000 euros a otra persona llamada por ejemplo Luis, lo normal es que la operación se realizase a través de un banco. Ese banco actúa como intermediario de esa y otras muchas transacciones, centralizando de forma efectiva el movimiento de capital de un lado a otro.



Mariano le pediría a su banco que retirara 1.000 euros de su cuenta y los transfiriese a la cuenta de Luis: en apenas unas horas (dependiendo del banco, claro) ese banco habrá anotado en su cuenta la transacción, restando 1.000 euros en su cuenta y comunicando al otro banco que debe añadir 1.000 euros en la cuenta de Luis. Alguien en el banco de Luis (a estas alturas, ya sabemos que ese alguien es un programa informático) anotará que en la cuenta de Luis hay 1.000 euros más procedentes de la cuenta bancaria de Mariano.
Esa gestión no ha necesitado de un trasiego de billetes de un lado a otro, sino que simplemente ha habido uno o dos bancos que se han encargado de hacer que el dinero pase de uno a otro con un simple cambio en los balances de sus cuentas. Todo estupendo y fantástico, salvo por un problema:
Que ni Mariano ni Luis tienen control alguno sobre el proceso, del que solo esos bancos tienen toda la información. Ambos dependen de esos bancos y de su forma de hacer las cosas para completar esa transacción. Están sujetos a sus condiciones (y a sus comisiones, por supuesto).

Hola, cadena de bloques

Es ahí donde entra la cadena de bloques, que básicamente elimina a los intermediarios, descentralizando toda la gestión. El control del proceso es de los usuarios, no de los bancos —seguimos hablando del dinero, pero el ejemplo es extrapolable a otros tipos de transacción—, y son ellos los que se convierten básicamente parte de un enorme banco con miles, millones de nodos, cada uno de los cuales se convierte en partícipe y gestor de los libros de cuenta del banco.



¿Qué es entonces la cadena de bloques? Pues un gigantesco libro de cuentas en los que los registros (los bloques) están enlazados y cifrados para proteger la seguridad y privacidad de las transacciones. Es, en otras palabras, una base de datos distribuida y segura (gracias al cifrado) que se puede aplicar a todo tipo de transacciones que no tienen por qué ser necesariamente económicas.
Esa cadena de bloques tiene un requisito importante: debe haber varios usuarios (nodos) que se encarguen de verificar esas transaccionespara validarlas y que así el bloque correspondiente a esa transacción (en cada bloque hay un gran número de transacciones que eso sí, es variable) se registre en ese gigantesco libro de cuentas.

Así funciona una transacción en la cadena de bloques

El proceso es relativamente sencillo, pero como decimos implica a más personas. Ahora Mariano y Luis no están solos, y formarán parte de un gran grupo de usuarios que se encargan de comprobar que todo el proceso se produce como debe producirse.



Si Mariano quiere retirar un bitcoin de su cuenta para dárselo a Luis, primero avisa a todo el mundo con una peculiaridad: nadie sabe que Mariano es Mariano y que Luis es Luis. Solo saben que desde una cartera digital (lo que sería una cuenta bancaria) se quiere transferir esa cantidad (que sí se conoce) a otra.
Mariano, por lo tanto, avisa de sus intenciones, pero sin revelar su identidad: "¡Eh, chicos, quiero mandarle un bitcoin desde mi cartera a esta otra, por favor, actualizad vuestros libros de cuentas!". Al enviar ese mensaje, todos los usuarios de esa red primero comprueban que
Marianola cartera de origen tiene suficiente dinero para enviárselo a la cartera de destino. Si es así, todos anotan esa transacción, que pasa a completarse y a formar parte del bloque de transacciones. Eso sí: todavía no están registrados en esa base de datos de forma definitiva.
A medida que pasa el tiempo, más y más transacciones van completándose y pasando a ese bloque, que tiene una capacidad limitada que depende de la estructura de la cadena de bloques y del tamaño de cada transacción. Cuando un bloque ya no admite más transacciones, llega un momento importante: el de "validarlo" o "sellarlo", que es lo que los usuarios hacen cuando hacen minería de bitcoin.

Soy minerooo ♫♪

Ese minado de bloques consiste en la realización de una serie de complejos cálculos que requieren tiempo y (cada vez más) electricidad, pero cuando el proceso esos bloques quedan registrados de forma permanente en esa cadena de bloques, y no pueden ser modificados sin que se alteren todos los bloques que están enlazados con él, una operación que además necesitaría que la mayoría de los nodos la validasen.



En esa red P2P los mineros reciben avisos de nuevas transacciones y las reúnen en un nuevo bloque, pero lo hacen además compitiendo con otros mineros, porque el primero que logra crear un bloque válido y lo sella recibe bitcoins (si está minando bitcoins, claro) por ese servicio. Gracias al uso de una cadena de bloques común que se sincroniza entre los nodos se logra la irreversibilidad de las transacciones, lo que permite que nadie "truque" el sistema o haga fraudes para beneficiarse, modificando el libro de cuentas para desviar dinero (bitcoins) de un lado a otro sin que otros se enteren.
De hecho añadir nuevos bloques es un proceso cada vez más costoso, lo que hace normalmente que los mineros trabajen agrupados (los famosos "pools" que funcionan de forma similar a una cooperativa) en lugar de trabajar por sí mismos ("solo mining", con unas probabilidades de éxito/recompensa muy bajas). Cuando uno de los mineros resuelve el problema criptográfico que representan los cálculos para "sellar" un bloque, avisa a los demás, que comprueban que efectivamente es así y añaden ese bloque a la cadena de bloques completa que tienen en sus ordenadores.



Ese libro de cuentas no solo está distribuido y es seguro: los bloques enlazados (de ahí lo de cadena de bloques) cuentan con un puntero hash (codificado) que enlaza al bloque anterior, además de una marca de tiempo y los datos de la transacción, y esa información es pública. ¿Qué significa eso? Que la cadena de bloques, aunque protege la privacidad de sus usuarios, sí que permite controlar la trazabilidad de esas transacciones.
O lo que es lo mismo: permite saber todo el camino que ha seguido el bitcoin de la cartera que pertenece a alguien (en este caso a Mariano, aunque su identidad no se conoce por el resto de usuarios) antes de llegar a la cartera de otro alguien (de Luis, aunque su identidad no sea conocida por el resto de usuarios).
El propio diseño de la cadena de bloques tiene ventajas claras, y por ejemplo confirma que cada unidad de valor (por ejemplo, cada bitcoin) solo se ha transferido una única vez, lo que evita el tradicional problema con el doble gasto de monedas digitales o con el dinero falso, que reduce la confianza de los usuarios en esa moneda y también en la propia circulación de la misma.

De ICOs y cadenas de bloques

Uno de los conceptos que más están apareciendo al hablar de las criptodivisas y las cadenas de bloques es el de las ICO, las Initial Coin Offerings.



Una ICO es como explicamos en profundidad una forma de financiación de un proyecto empresarial que en lugar de ofrecer acciones ofrece tokens virtuales, o lo que es lo mismo, nuevas critpodivisas.
Estas nuevas criptodivisas tienen cierto valor hipotético debido a su escasez y demanda, y están directamente asociadas al proyecto empresarial que las crea, como ocurre con ejemplos muy conocidos como el del navegador Brave: si ese proyecto triunfa, las criptomonedas en las que se basó su financiación ganan valor y eso acaba ofreciendo un interesante retorno de la inversión para los inversores.
El funcionamiento es por tanto similar al de las ofertas públicas de venta, pero en lugar de comprar acciones de una empresa —una que además tiene un producto en el mercado y que ha pasado por rigurosos controles financieros antes de poder hacer su OPV— compramos criptodivisas en una operación con un formato mucho más incierto, sin regulación alguna y en el que básicamente estamos "apostando" por el futuro de ese proyecto empresarial con muchas menos pruebas o garantías de que ese futuro éxito se produzca.



El componente especulativo, como en todo lo que rodea actualmente a las criptodivisas, es muy alto, y de hecho hay quien califican a las ICO como la mayor estafa nunca vista, pero también hay claros defensores de un modelo de financiación cada vez más atractivo.
Todas estas nuevas criptodivisas se apoyan en una cadena de bloques que soporta la estructura de ese nuevo token virtual. La más utilizada es la de Ethereum por su versatilidad y por la facilidad que plantea esa plataforma. Un desarrollador explicaba recientemente cómo crear una de estas cadenas de bloques fácilmente a partir de Geth, una de las implementaciones más conocidas (en este caso, en lenguaje Go, de ahí el nombre, "Go Ethereum") del protocolo ethereum.

La cadena de bloques más allá de la economía

Aunque la cadena de bloques está íntimamente relacionada con las nuevas criptodivisas o criptomonedas, es lógico preguntarse si este sistema sería válido para otro tipo de transacciones, y la respuesta es un rotundo sí.



De hecho eso es lo que está intentando lograr desde sus inicios la plataforma Ethereum, que tiene su propia cadena de bloques (podéis echarle un vistazo en sitios como Etherscan.io) y su propia moneda, llamada Ether. A diferencia de bitcoin, las transacciones aquí son los contratos inteligentes —los programadores aman este concepto—, que pueden ser más o menos complejos y que permiten definir todo tipo de transacciones.
Al igual que ocurre con bitcoin, lo bueno de esas transacciones es que se mantendrán en la cadena de bloques, inalterables y accesibles durante toda la vida de esa cadena de bloques. Si nos vamos al extremo, Ethereum podría sustituir básicamente a cualquier intermediario, sustituyendo productos y servicios que dependen de terceros para estar totalmente descentralizados.
Por supuesto esta es solo una de las alternativas que se han originado con la cadena de bloques como protagonista, y de hecho hay muchas ideasque tratan de explotar las bondades de una tecnología que tiene un alcance virtualmente ilimitado. Veamos algunos ejemplos:
  • Consorcio R3: las propias entidades financieras que muchos tratan de reemplazar con bitcoin o Ethereum han creado el consorcio R3 para averiguar cómo aprovechar la cadena de bloques en los sistemas financieros tradicionales. Uno de los primeros problemas de la aplicación de este esquema es el anonimato que proporciona el diseño de la cadena de bloques, algo que han resuelto con el llamado "libro de contabilidad autorizado" ('permissioned ledger'), una variante muy peculiar de la cadena de bloques de bitcoin, por ejemplo, que sí que identifica a los usuarios que añaden bloques y que hace que las transacciones del sistema solo puedan consultarse por ciertas partes.
  • Registro de propiedades: el gobierno japonés ha iniciado un proyectopara unificar todo el registro de propiedades urbanas y rústicas con tecnología de cadena de bloques, lo que permitiría contar con una base de datos abierta en la que se pudieran consultar los datos de las 230 millones de fincas y 50 millones de edificios que se estima existen en el país asiático. En Dubai están planeando algo muy parecido.
  • Pagos en el mundo real: una startup llamada TenX ha creado una tarjeta prepago que se puede recargar con distintas criptodivisas para luego pagar con ella en cualquier sitio como si esa tarjeta tuviera dinero convencional, sin importar si ese establecimiento acepta o no este tipo de monedas virtuales.
  • Carsharing: la empresa EY, subsidiaria de Ernst & Young Global Ltd está desarrollando un sistema basado en la cadena de bloques que permite a empresas o grupos de personas acceder a un servicio para compartir coches de forma sencilla. El llamado Tesseract permitiría registrar quién es el propietario del vehículo, el usuario de ese vehículo y generar los costes basados en el seguro y otras transacciones en este tipo de servicios.
  • Almacenamiento en la nube: normalmente los servicios de almacenamiento están centralizados en un proveedor específico, pero la empresa Storj quiere descentralizar este servicio para mejorar la seguridad y reducir la dependencia de ese proveedor de almacenamiento.
  • Identidad digital: los últimos y gigantescos fallos de seguridad y robos de datos han hecho que la gestión de nuestras identidades se convierta en un problema muy real. La cadena de bloques podría proporcionar un sistema único para lograr validar identidades de forma irrefutable, segura e inmutable. Hay muchas empresas desarrollando servicios en este ámbito, y todas ellas creen que aplicar la tecnología de la cadena de bloques para este propósito es una solución óptima.
  • Música: aunque hay críticas que afirman que esta opción no tiene validez, hay quien afirma que la distribución musical podría sufrir toda una revolución si se lograra implantar un sistema basado en la cadena de bloques para gestionar su reproducción, distribución y disfrute. La mismísima Spotify está apostando fuerte por su propia cadena de bloques.
  • Servicios públicos/gubernamentales: otro de los ámbitos más interesantes de la aplicación de la cadena de bloques es en los servicios públicos que podrían presumir así de una transparencia absoluta. Las áreas de actividad son múltiples: desde la gestión de licencias, transacciones, eventos, movimiento de recursos y pagos, gestión de propiedades hasta la gestión de identidades. De hecho el robo masivo de datos en Equifax han hecho que algunos propongan la sustitución de los números de la seguridad social en Estados Unidos con un sistema basado en la cadena de bloques. Hay iniciativas incluso para "descentralizar el gobierno", y Bitnation es una de esos proyectos que tratan de llamarnos convertirnos en "ciudadanos del mundo".
  • Seguridad social y sanidad: aunque se podría englobar dentro de los servicios públicos mencionados, la sanidad pública podría sufrir una verdadera revolución con un sistema de cadena de bloques que sirviera para registrar todo tipo de historiales médicos y resolver uno de los problemas clásicos de la gestión de la sanidad.
  • Gestión de autorías: aunque relacionado con lo mencionado para el mundo de la música, Ascribe es una plataforma que trata de ayudar a creadores y artistas a atribuirse la autoría de sus trabajos a través de la cadena de bloques. Hay otras muchas plataformas en este ámbito (BitproofBlockaiStampery, por ejemplo) que entre otras cosas permiten generar tiendas en las que se puedan comprar trabajos originales de una forma segura y sencilla.
Son tan solo algunos ejemplos de la aplicación de la cadena de bloques a todo tipo de ámbitos, pero hay muchísimos más: la versatilidad de esta tecnología es tan enorme que es difícil pensar en un área que no pueda ser transformada por esta idea.
De momento, eso sí, todas estas ideas son solo proyectos en pleno desarrollo, por lo que la revolución, aunque posible, parece lejana, sobre todo cuando los intermediarios (en todos los ámbitos) se han convertido en parte integral de la economía y la sociedad. Descentralizar todas estas industrias es mucho más complejo de lo que parece, sobre todo porque esos mismos intermediarios tratarán de rechazar esos cambios o adaptarlos a sus propias necesidades.


Fuente del artículo:  XATAKA. Autor: Javier pastor.  


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  • Avatar de macfloppy
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    Uno se da cuenta de que se está haciendo viejo cuando ve que no se entera de una mierda de estas cosas. Que no es porque el artículo esté mal, es que sigo sin comprender qué es minar, los bitcoins, esto otro... XD
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  • Avatar de macfloppy Respondiendo a Mr.Floppy
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    Yo no soy viejo (o no me considero viejo aún) y tampoco he entendido nada.
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  • Avatar de gioreno Respondiendo a gioreno
    Hola,
    Al final, si tomamos a todos los usuarios de una red, cómo si fuera un mapa o grafo, "se resume" a que los PCs o computadoras de la red, realicen los cálculos de que los transacciones para esa red son correctas. Es decir, si se dispone de una red con 1000 usuarios (anónimos) en la que se realizan transacciones (por ejemplo de bitcoins), para revisar que todos los cálculos de las transacciones son correctos, podemos tomar el siguiente ejemplo: Si desde el usuario A se han enviado 100 bitcoins al B, el resto de máquinas de la red, comprueban que los cálculos en esa red (bloque), son correctos. Es decir, hay 100 menos en A, y más en B. La complejidad radica si hay miles de cálculos y transacciones. Por eso, hay muchos usuarios que prestan su PC (red y electricidad) para realizar este servicio. Por "Minar", en el caso de los Bitcoins, te llevas una cierta cantidad de dinero. Espero haberte aclarado (más o menos) :)
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  • Avatar de clopeper Respondiendo a clopeper
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    Ahora lo entiendo un poco mejor. Gracias por la explicación.
  • Avatar de macfloppy Respondiendo a Mr.Floppy
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    Jajajajajajajajaja A mí me ha pasado igual, aunque sí conozco los bitcoins, no capto su uso y su funcionamiento, no me cabe en la cabeza que no tengan existencia material y que un bitcoin valga cuatro o cinco mil euros.
    No he captado cómo haría yo una transferencia de x euros a otra cuenta a través de la cadena de bloques, ¿a quién le daría la orden? ¿qué ventajas tiene sobre lo de ahora? Digo yo que esa transferencia que hago a través de esa cadena, a alguien le genera un gasto y querrá cobrar por ello ¿No?
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  • Avatar de uti Respondiendo a uti
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    No se pueden transferir Euros directamente en la cadena de bloques, primero tienes que canjearlos en una "casa de cambio" (exchange) de criptodivisas como por ejemplo (que acepten Euros): Kraken, Bitstamp, Gdax, Localbitcoins, etc por alguna criptomoneda como Bitcoin, Ether, Litecoin, etc
    A partir de aquí dentro del mismo exchange obtienes una dirección de una cuenta privada desde donde puedes retirar el saldo (en criptodivisa) enviándolo a otra cuenta, la de destino de la transacción, que conoces o te facilita el destinatario (que por supuesto debe poseer una cuenta propia) y este último si lo desea realiza el camino inverso para obtener dinero Fiat (Euros, Dólares, etc)
    Normalmente lo más correcto es obtener una cartera de criptodivisa personal en la que tu controlas las llaves privadas (no así normalmente en un exchange) y desde donde generas direcciones de cuentas y realizas las transacciones. Hay diferentes tipos de carteras, desde aplicaciones de PC en que descargas toda la base de datos o Blockchain (con el consiguiente tamaño de datos), otras más ligeras y las virtuales.
    En cuanto a lo del gasto efectivamente lo hay para compensar a los mineros por su trabajo y coste de electricidad por lo que se "paga" una comisión por cada transacción realizada que puede ser menor o mayor en función de la velocidad a que queremos ver confirmada la transacción.
    Las ventajas aparte de la descentralización y anonimato serían las de la rapidez (aunque esto esta cambiando con los pagos móviles y las SEPA instantáneas a partir del 21 de Diciembre) y los envíos transfronterizos (muy útil en caso de conflictos políticos, guerras, inmigración, etc)
    Recuerda que los Euros en sí no son más que un papel que certifica que eres propietario de un valor (respaldado por un banco central). La criptodivisa en vez de un papel es una clave criptográfica (que certifica lo mismo, aunque aquí el respaldo es la Blockchain, podríamos decir un banco descentralizado)
    El elevado valor del Bitcoin actualmente es en gran parte especulativo, pero también hay una demanda como reserva en países donde hay conflictos con incertidumbre económica)
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  • Avatar de 194926 Respondiendo a 194926
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    Gracias por tu explicación 194926
  • Avatar de macfloppy Respondiendo a Mr.Floppy
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    La verdad que leyendo este artículo si uno no es muy entendido en la materia... pues creo que sale más liado que antes.
    Creo que es prácticamente imposible condensarlo en un artículo así. A mí me pasaba que también leía sobre bitcoin y blockchain en periódicos y la verdad que me entraba la misma sensación. Al final le dediqué tiempo y leyendo con más detalle y ya creo que puedo decir que medio lo entiendo.
    Esto es como si en los 90 un artículo de la prensa fueran a explicar qué es Internet, y se ponen que si los protocolos TCP/IP, que si el HTML, que si Intranets, servidores, etc, pues supongo que la gente al principio tampoco se enteraría.
  • Avatar de macfloppy Respondiendo a Mr.Floppy
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    Criptomania, es un blog de educación de esta tecnología, muy bien redactado.
    Dale una vuelta, hay conceptos que hay que leerlos varias veces sobre todo si el las matemáticas y el álgebra quedan un poco lejos o nunca se ha estudiado, pero igualmente se explica muy bien para cualquier neófito.
    un saludo.
  • Avatar de macfloppy Respondiendo a Mr.Floppy
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    Busca documentales en youtube, si te interesa el tema. Saludos.
  • Avatar de macfloppy Respondiendo a Mr.Floppy
    Si entiendes P2P o el torrent ya entendiste la cuarta parte.
    Si entiendes la encriptación hasta ahora infalible de ese sistema, ya entendiste la segunda cuarta parte.
    Si entiendes que el sistema necesita electricidad para el poder de computación que senecesita para mantener el sistema para encadenarlo todo, y luego la recompensa por mantener ese sistema es en pago con bitcoin u otra criptomoneda, ya entendiste la tercera cuarta parte.
    Archivos encriptados que se trasladan de persona a persona con un sistema de encadenado supervisado computacional que se mantiene en base a recompensas, por lo cual algunos creen que esto puede ser una pirámide.
    Y si comprendes del valor del dinero fiat, por decreto y fiduciario, aplicado a esos archivos encriptados en lugar de a un papel, y que se puede extender a contratos de todo tipo, al que aplican las leyes bursátiles que no son mas que entender que el precio de mercado está basado en una subasta contínua: lo has entendido todo.
  • brillante
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    Javier, no lo he entendido bien...
    Si Nicolas le manda a Juan Carlos dinero, lo hace en un sobre, como Luis a Mariano, o lo hace a través de un intermediario Iraní?
    Anda que no se os ve el plumero...
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  • Avatar de cerberov Respondiendo a cerberov
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    El plumero se te ve a tí. Es una metáfora simpática y de actualidad. Si te parece mal eso...
  • Avatar de cerberov Respondiendo a cerberov
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    Depende, en el caso de Nicolás a Juan Carlos, como es una transferencia legal puede hacerlo directamente por transacción bancaria. Juan Carlos solo tiene que declararlo al fisco y pagar el 45%.
    En el caso de Luis a Mariano solo lo puede hacer en metálico ya que se trata de comisiones ilegales y no se debe dejar rastro.
  • Avatar de cerberov Respondiendo a cerberov
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    Bueno, entiende lo q te está intentado contar Javier más allá de la coña de moda de ahora mismo.
    Intenta explicar como funciona blockchain, un sistema q ha nacido en sistemas financieros q está destinado a ir a mucho otros sectores.
  • Avatar de cerberov Respondiendo a cerberov
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    ridículo, así nos va... que nos roban a manos llenas y si encima se hace un chiste os ofendéis... así nos va.
  • brillante
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    Todo sabemos que si Mariano quiere enviar 1000 pavos a Luis utilizará un sobre y punto (Eso si, también va encriptado como M. Rajoy para que nadie sospeche, jarl).
  • Avatar de jlua
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    En una época en la que exigimos transparencia para todo, para pagos, para cobros, para políticos, para empresarios, para trabajadores, y para todo el mundo, me parece una falta de ética apoyar o promover mecanismos cuya mayor ventaja radica precisamente en la opacidad de las transacciones financieras. Espero estos mecanismos fracasen por su propio peso, cuando la gente pierda su dinero, como sucedió con la tulipomanía del siglo XVII, o porque los gobiernos y autoridades fiscales les metan mano.
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  • Avatar de jlua Respondiendo a jlua
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    Su mayor ventaja???!!!!!
    Deberías tratar de investigar un poco antes de soltar esas gilipolleces con todos mis respetos.
    La mayor ventaja de bitcoin, es que es descentralizada, el control lo tienen los usuarios de la plataforma, no un banco central ni un gobierno. Eso para empezar es ya algo genial. Que sea la gente la que decida como debe ser el dinero y según que reglas se mueve.
    Y después tantas otras ventajas: Transferencias en minutos al otro lado del mundo (transferencia de verdad, el dinero pasa a estar al otro lado).
    Imposibilidad de manipular la red para estafar o engañar. Al contrario de lo que tu crees todas las transferencias son publicas y se sabe la cantidad que va de que cuenta a que cuenta.
    Pero bueno, que te entiendo, se esta muy comodo diciendo lo primero que se te pasa por la cabeza desde el mas absoluto cuñadismo.
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  • Avatar de adrianmadu Respondiendo a adrianmadu
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    Transferencias en minutos si pagas buenas comisiones, si no te puedes aburrir.
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  • Avatar de 69582 Respondiendo a acerswap
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    Las comisiones son altas es cierto en el caso del Bitcoin. Pero en muchas otras monedas que usan la blockchain son bastante bajas (mas bajas de lo que te cobraria un banco).
    Y el problema de bitcoin radica si no me equivoco en lo que se ha revalorizado. Y se arreglaria cambiando el tamaño de los bloques cosa que ha estado a punto de ocurrir con el segwit2x y tarde o temprano ocurrira.
  • Avatar de jlua Respondiendo a jlua
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    Las transacciones son 100% publicas, lo que no es publico es quienes son las que las realizan. Si las cuentas bancarias fueran anonimas (solo con un numero) seria lo mismo.
    Hay muchas posibilidades de que la gente pierda su dinero si se dan los siguientes supuestos:
    - El coste del minado se hace inasumible.
    - No es posible minar nuevos bitcoins, solo se consigue dinero con las comisiones.
    - La gente se da cuenta de que nadie avala a los monederos online y si caen adios al dinero. (¿Cuanta gente usa monederos online y cuanta tiene su monedero en papel?)
  • Avatar de jlua Respondiendo a jlua
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    No te preocupes. que cuando se consolide un poco más serán los bancos los que se metan si no lo han hecho ya. Difícil que fracase.
  • Avatar de jlua Respondiendo a jlua
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    No te has enterado de nada, eh?
    Precisamente se puede implementar un sistema blockchain para que todo (ABSOLUTAMENTE TODO EL DINERO, HASTA EL ULTIMO CENTIMO) de dinero público sea 100% verificable y contrastable por el 100% de la ciudadanía.
    Eso es el Blockchain. Que estas confundiendo la tecnología (blockchain) con una de sus interpretaciones (Bitcoin), que habéis leído lo de los tulipanes (que no tenías ninguno ni puta idea de dicho evento especulativo) y lo estais repitiendo es la barra de bar cual cuñado en extasis navideño.
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    Mariano y Luís? estás de coña no? jajajaja... ellos no utilizan banqueros, ni blockchains... utilizan sobres! jajaja
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  • Avatar de ecalpe Respondiendo a ecalpe
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    No, no, no. Maletines.
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    En unos días, las transferencias -de hasta 15 mil euros- serán instantáneas en la Unión Europea, mediante el sistema TIPS. ¡Y sin blockchain!
    Total, que el ejemplo que ilustra esta entrada me temo que va a quedar algo descafeinado...
    Por favor: todos estamos esperando ejemplos -casos de uso- reales. Prácticos. Imaginativos. "Disruptores", como se dice ahora.
    Sospecho que -salvo para las criptomodenas- se tiene una tecnología y lo que nos estamos preguntando es en qué la vamos a utilizar. Es decir: tengo la solución y no sé cuál es el problema al que aplicarla...
    Saludos
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  • Avatar de jarauta Respondiendo a jarauta
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    Otro que no se enteró.
    Esos 15000€ quién los tiene? ¿cúanto te cobran? Si están en un Banco quebrado quien lo vigilaba? ¿Quien ha rescatado a los bancos? ¿Como sabemos donde gestiona el banco mi dinero y si saca beneficios de ello por qué no me los repercute? Con Blockchain públicas todos eso problemas ya están solucionados.
    Que problema dice...
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  • Avatar de golan_trevize Respondiendo a Juri
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    ¿Y quién crees que se está enriqueciendo con las criptomonedas?
    ¿Quién crees que vende la electricidad que necesitan los mineros? ¿Quién les vende las GPUs?
    Cuando hackeen tu monedero, ¿a quién vas a reclamar? Alguno pretenderá entonces que sea el papá Estado quien le resarza (¿nos acordamos de Fórum Filatélico?)
    En todo caso, seguís sin aportar nuevos casos de uso de blockchain diferentes a las criptomonedas... Que seguro los hay, pero parece que se lo guardan para ellos...
    Saludos
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  • Avatar de jarauta Respondiendo a jarauta
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    No estas leyendo con atención, una cosa son las criptodivisas, pueden gustarte o no, pueden aceptarse como pago o no, cualquiera que se meta sabe que si pierde el dinero se acabó, yo no te discuto eso.
    Pero el blockchain ha sido un regalo para la humanidad com oen su día lo fue internet, independientemente de que los fabricantes de PCs se hiciesen ricos por el camino, el avance es así, blockchain viene a resolver cualquier problema de transparencia en cualquier transacción, no solo económica si no vinculante a cualquier fichero digital, como puede ser un contrato, una propiedad, las cuentas de gasto de un estado, etc...
    Date una vuelta por internet y verás la de proyectos que están funcionando ya sobre tecnología blockchain de contratos inteligentes (basada en red ethereum) como por ejemplo impulsar la gestion e implantación de energía solar en paises como autralia a los que les pasa como nosotros, que tienen excente de luz que no se aprovecha para luchar contra el cambio climático. Por ponerte un ejemplo, real y que funciona hoy día y que gracias al blockchain puede participar cualquier persona en el mundo que crea en dicho proyecto y no os engañeis, dichas empresas tienen que responder legalmente en los paises en los que operan. Hay muchos más casos como este.
  • Avatar de jarauta Respondiendo a jarauta
    Cualquier tipo de contrato, cualquier tipo de transferencia de propiedad bienes o immuebles, cualquier tipo de identidad digital, cualquier tipo de propiedad empresarial (acciones o/i participaciones), sigo?
    Hay 3 bancos españoles ya con sus pruebas de blockchain para sus transacciones, con 3 nodos interconectados.
    Una cosa son las criptodivisas, que se puede estar a favor o en contra pero el blockchain va mucho más allá, pensad un registro de propiedad de cualquier cosa que permite la transferencia entre los usuarios sin intermediarios y securizada con lo que da "fe" de su veracidad e integridad. Es un gran notario distribuido (otro trabajo que va a desaparecer si no espabilan) sobre movimientos de información anónimos o no. Estos notarios distribuidos pueden ser recompensados (por su parte de trabajo de notarios) o no (casos como la administración pública). En los segundos puedes asumir que los costes de esa "notaria" serás asumidos por las entidades que crean esa cadena de movimientos. En los primeros se recompensa con monedas virtuales que luego tienen su propio valor establecido por el coste del trabajo hecho y pueden finalmente usarse para otros servicios o convertirlas en divisas tradicionales.
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  • Avatar de real_kanashii Respondiendo a real_kanashii
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    Responde a Juri, que era a quien iba dirigido mi comentario...
    Lo que tú dices va más en mi dirección...
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  • Avatar de jarauta Respondiendo a jarauta
    Tu has pedido ejemplos de uso, te los he dado y también una explicación de su uso, más allá de las criptomonedas.
    Aunque las criptomonedas se hundan el blockchain es una gran idea aplicable a muchos tipos de registros. Defiendo la idea, su explotación económica es por desgracia una necesidad derivada de la fuerza de cálculo necesaria para su aplicación.
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  • Avatar de real_kanashii Respondiendo a real_kanashii
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    Exactamente, las criptodivisas son lo de menos es el blockchain la revolución.
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    Respeto todos los comentarios pero parece que muchos sólo se fijan en cómo puede ser mal utilizado.
    Creo que todavía están buscando al inventor de papel, él tiene la culpa de que se use para imprimir billetes que son usados para desfalcar; que se creara para difundir conocimiento ni lo valoramos.
    En el artículo se exponen muchos casos en los que serían una gran ventaja. Por ejemplo el de los expedientes sanitarios me parece estupendo.
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  • Avatar de jahegu Respondiendo a jahegu
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    Cai Lun. El séptimo más influyente de la historia de la humanidad según lo que dicen aquí https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_100,_un_ranking_de_las_personas_m%C3%A1s_influyentes_en_la_historia
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    Ahora desestabilizar a un país es más fácil le dejas sin comunicaciones y la economía se hunde y de que manera...los bit coins a la m.....
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  • Avatar de frk2k11 Respondiendo a frk2k11
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    Ajammm. Y supongo que dejar sin comunicaciones un pais es facil y ha ocurrido muchas veces cierto?
  • Avatar de frk2k11 Respondiendo a frk2k11
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    Tambien le puedes dejar sin luz, puestos a imaginar. Como que si nos quedamos sin comunicaciones los bancos de ahora tampoco pueden operar, ¿antes de poner estos ejemplos, pensáis en las limitaciones del dinero FIAT actual o las soltais sin pensar lo mas minimo?
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    Es un interesante resumen de introducción a la tecnología de cadena de bloques (y con humor, je, je, Luis y Mariano, no está mal, las comparaciones son... obvias).
    La única pega que le veo a esta tecnología es que ella misma, en sí, es segura, pero toda la informática que la rodea no. Ahí están todo el 'malware' destinado a robar carteras de criptomonedas o los fallos en el software relacionado con criptomonedas, como la 'cagada' de Parity que bloqueó hace unos días Ethereum por valor de cientos de millones de dólares.
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    He de decir que no hace muchos meses era un HATER en toda regla sobre la criptomoneda/s porque pensaba como mucho de vosotros, que si terrorismo, que si narcos, pero eso es lo de menos, lo harán igual de una forma u otra pero lo que si que está claro es que esto es el futuro tal y como se estan poniendo los Gobiernos sobre todo el Español con la represion, prefiero estudiarmelo bien e invertir 5 asics y sacarme un dinero extra y comprarme lo que me salga que tener que dar explicaciones y tener que pagar impuestos sobrantes, que a dia a dia ya pagamos impuestos comprando solo mencianondo los alimentos por ejemplo que luego las empresas tienen que pagar pero apenas pagan porque les hacen amnistias, etc.
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    el blockchain se podria aplicar atransacciones de dinero tradicional, pero eso implicaria perdida de intimidad, por ejemplo ,una red que conectase bancos, con bancos "nacionales", y que si tu quieres transferir dinero de punto A al punto B , aparte de anotarse en el punto A Y B la transferencia , que un punto C ( por ejemplo el banco de españa ) comprobase que hay dinero para hacer esa transferencia y anotase esa transferencia
  • Avatar de golan_trevize
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    Buenas tardes.
    Creo que aunque el artículo está muy bien redactado, no se pone en la piel de quien no comprende la tecnología blockchain previamente, se puede leer en los comentarios este problema, la gente está confundiendo la tecnología blockchain, con sus implementaciones, bitcoin mayoritariamente. Tampoco se explica bien la diferencia de las criptodivisas con el dinero FIAT (solo se pone un ejemplo) pero no se explica la cantidad de maldades que nos hacen a los ciudadanos con tal dinero:
    -Nos obligan a cobrar nominas vía banco y a pagar a los intemediarios por el camino (bancos y cajas)
    -Dichos intermediarios especulan con nuestros depósitos aunque simplemente tengamos una cuenta normal abierta, sin retribución o plan de inversion asociada.
    -Nos cobran comisiones y estamos sujetos a que los gobiernos controlen todos los movimientos de las mismas, parece que es normal perder la privacidad de lo que se gasta uno el dinero haya pasado a ser normal, gracias a los políticos corruptos que nos gobiernan y han robado dinero público. Y luego empiezan a ponernos impuestos para robarnos mas ¿Es normal que en un pais como este en el que se tiene DERECHO a TENER VIVIENDA, pagues impuestos cuando la compras, cuando la registras, cuando la tienes (IBI) y cuando la vendes (ITP y plusvalías)? NO, ES UN ROBO y lo mismo con otros bienes.
    -Nos devalúan la moneda o nos suben y bajan tipos de interés sin que podamos hacer nada. O Mejor aún nos imponen una moneda unica (euro) sin armonizar poder adquisitivo, politica fiscal, bancaria etc... y luego pasa lo que pasa.
    -Nos cobran comisiones muy altas por el cambio a otras divisas.
    - El dinero FIAT ha servido perfectamente a los criminales (políticos y otros personajes que se asocian criminalmente) para blanquear y robar como se está demostrando.
    La cadena de bloques, blockchain, tampoco puede entenderse sin explicar el metodo de cifrado elíptico en el que se tiene que entender qué es y para que sirve la clave pública y la clave privada.
    No os dejés engañar por los titulares en los que bandas criminales blanquean dinero, que además se les acaba pillando igual, son criminales por robar, traficar, trata de blancas o lo que sea, pero ultimamente, a los medios que tanto ganan por cada click aprovechan para meter la palabra Bitcoin de por medio, aunque no tenga nada que ver con las actividades delictivas de dicho grupo, mas que nada porque legalmente el bitcoin no tiene consideracion de divisa y ni siquiera hacienda sabe como se tienen que declarar dichas cantidades, y ya no te digo en Bitcoin sino en las 1000 criptodivisas mas que existen en el mundo y que ha permitido la descentralización y auge de startups, algunas de ellas para luchar contra el cambio climático mediante el uso inteligente de los smart contracts y la gestion de la energía renovable.
    Blockchain se estudiará en la ESO en muy pocos años igual que ahora se estudia internet, cuando se comprende el uso de esta tecnología se puede ver el calado que va a tener y lo imparable de la misma.
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  • Avatar de golan_trevize Respondiendo a Juri
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    Antes de contestarme pensad en los 60000 millones que hemos perdido como contribuyentes gracias al maravilloso sistema bancario español, la amnistía fiscal y el desvio de capitales a paraísos fiscales que hacen impunemente con dinero FIAT la gente que nos gobierna. O mejor aún en el robo del banco Santander con el beneplacito de los partidos gobernantes a todos los inversores de Banco Popular. Todo eso ha ocurrido ahora y no hacemos mucho por solucionarlo.
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    La cantidad mundial de oro es finita. Basa su valor en su escasez natural y su estabilidad fisicoquimica. Simplemente existe, sin consumir energía por ello.

    La cantidad de dinero FIAT es ilimitada desde que en 1971 dejó de estar respaldada por el oro. Su representante material es papel o metal, que tienen la (muy humana) cualidad de ser tangible. El coste energético de creación (huella de carbono) es lineal (y relativamente bajo).
    Minar criptomonedas exige alimentar y refrigerar GPUs o ASICs, y la complejidad de obtención del deseado hash aumenta de manera desorbitada. A su enorme complejidad tecnológica, por si fuera poco, hay que agregarle su naturaleza de 'bien' no tangible -y encriptado, para más inri- exigiendo una triple acrobacia de abstracción mental.
    Leo en otro articulo de Xataka que las granjas mineras están en China (eletricidad barata) o en paises muy fríos y cercanos a plantas hidroeléctricas, como Islandia.
    Como se decía en otro comentario, intentar explicar Internet en los '80 hubiera creado la misma frustración que entender el blockchain hoy en día (desde luego omitiendo explicaciones proclives al sesgo cognitivo como pornografia, fake news, big data y selfies!).
    El ser humano es especialista en dar saltos de abstracción para omitir las complicaciones subyacentes (mi madre tiene un smartphone con el que crea una zona wifi para la tablet. Unbelievable)
    Todo esto para justificar mi verdadera inquietud:
    ¿La dirección que llevan los vientos virtuales (mientras no se entrometa el cambio climático real) realmente pasa por seguir contaminando y sumergiendonos más en la inalcanzabilidad de lo virtual?
    ¿Es la naturaleza de la motivación de los compradores y de los mineros distinta (léase especulativa)?
    ¿Llegarán los GreenCoins como un hibrido entre la realidad material y lo virtual?
  • pues naa...sigo buscando alguien que explique lo del blockchain de manera entendible, desde el principio, desde cero, simple...
    Lo único que he entendido hasta ahora es que se trata de "un sistema" que permite conocer la "vida" de "algo" desde su creación y que esa "vida" esta copiada en miles de sitios a la vez y que "supuestamente" es imposible cambiarla a la vez de todos esos sitios, de ahí su seguridad.
    ¿al menos he entendido algo?
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    No tengo duda que esta tecnologia cambiará la historia.
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  • Avatar de zonabiz Respondiendo a zonabiz
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    Ya la está cambiando...la gente es tan subnormal que hacen comentarios de cuñao sobre las cryptos mientras ya están usando sus servicios sin saberlo (Steemit, Library Credits, Brave browser, etc etc etc)
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    O sea, que si Ibrahim financia 7 células terroristas en ciudades Europeas y Americanas, es mejor que toda la pasta y los contactos utilicen los bloques estos. Y ya nos enteraremos de donde estaban los terroristas cuando media ciudad explote.
    O los pederastas.
    O los políticos corruptos.
    O la Mafia siciliana.
    O las Triadas.
    O los Yakuzas.
    Todo eso por no hablar del tema de impuestos sobre transacciones y leches. Que supongo que todos los países estarán contentos de saber que se mueve pasta sin control.
    p.d: Bienvenidos al mundo donde todo quisqui tiene su propio paraíso fiscal. Coge el dinero y corre y déjate de tonterías comunistas, de izquierda o de compartir las riquezas. 
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  • Avatar de marcsushi Respondiendo a marcsushi
    interesante
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    Cuanta razón tienes. Yo iria mas alla. Ibrahim ha usado un coche para ocultar la bomba que ha volado media ciudad. Deberiamos prohibir los coches ya que se usan para esconder esplosivos!!! Malditas empresas automovilisticas...
    Cuanto cuñado suelto...
  • Avatar de marcsushi Respondiendo a marcsushi
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    Todo el mundo sabe que el terrorismo islamista, los pederastas, la mafia, la yakuza y los políticos corruptos no existirían si no hubiera blockchains....
    Y por su puesto Internet, por favor, cierren todo Internet por el bien de nuestra juventud, que he leído que ISIS usa Twitter, la mafia rusa Telegram y los corruptos se envían mail entre ellos.
    Anda que ....
  • Avatar de marcsushi Respondiendo a marcsushi
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    No te preocupes, porque cuando Ibrahim reviente media ciudad lo hará con tecnología occidental que empresas con mucha ética le habrán vendido.
    En estos momentos en que parece que desde un satélite se puede ver la hora en el reloj de un transeúnte, no han podido ver los miles y miles y miles de transportes con petróleo que mandó Ibrahim desde los pozos del Estado Islámico.
    El problema no son las criptomonedas. El problema es la triple moral de occidente que está muy interesado en que a Ibrahim le vaya bien.
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    Todo aquel que hable mal de la cadena de bloques o del bitcoin significa que no entiende nada de los mismos :)
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  • Avatar de guillofigueroa33 Respondiendo a guillofigueroa33
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    Si para hablar de algún tema, criticándolo o favoreciéndolo, tenemos que entenderlo, entonces estaríamos mudos y el teclado como el primer día, sin usar.
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  • Avatar de biturrizar Respondiendo a biturrizar
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    Igual seria un mundo mejor, no crees?

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